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PissyFuckingBitch
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| 05/09/2006 3:07 PM |
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| They hate Damon because he has a radio network based on ORIGINAL CONTENT! There isn't any "big name comedians" aired on this network. It is 100% original comedy spawned from that ever fertile mind of Mr Fabriao. If it weren't for him starting the network back in college everyone would be listening to some original comedy, some stand up recorded from real comedians etc. They can't stand the fact that someone has had the balls not to use real comedians to boost his ratings and that they won't allow any of it in automation. Can anyone at the other comedy networks claim that their automation is 100% originally from their network shows? I doubt it very much... but let them keep coming and proving how sad they are and how stupid they look. |
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Zane McFate
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| 05/09/2006 3:09 PM |
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| Let's be fair, Defcon doesn't hate us. Some of their fans do. Mark himself has posted on our forums, and is rather civil to us, other than the obligatory bashing of competitors. I'm sure we have our fair share of fans who bash their network unfairly, it's to be expected. I think on an individual level, the people who bash NHB are just embarassing themselves, because their arguments are riddled with holes and usually resort to mindless namecalling, but that's not Defcon's fault. It's just the kind of listeners they happen to attract. |
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damon
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| 05/09/2006 3:14 PM |
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See,
the thing is that they claim that their automation of standup comedians is why
they have their bigger numbers and it is a formula that works. Yes, and in fact,
it does draw in lots of listeners, until a live show goes on, then the standup
fans go away and you're left with similar numbers to us. I will also say that
Defcon probably inheritted listeners from angry nhb fans, wild bunch fans,
social crime fans and some stragglers who happen to like the original shows on
their own. But, defcon didn't build its audience, in my opinion, they stole it
using everybody else's material and other network's fans. But, hard work never
pays off, anyway, so why do it I can sleep at night knowiong that the nhb fans
are here for us, not because of standup comedians or other networks left overs.
Not to mention that Mark the DJ, GM of Defcon, has taken to just picking off our
shows, so he can't even find his own talent, he has to sponge off our people,
i.e. the attempt at acquring sloan, treydogg hour, reckless and gators. I bet if
Devils advocate didn't have family issues to deal with, mark would've pulled
them over to defcon too when they left. Sorry to all you defcon lurkers, but
this is fact and if you don't believe me, then go crawl back into your box and
live in denial. NHB has done it the right way, and while we may not have
thousands of listeners, we haven't tried that hard. But, watch what we do in the
next six months and be prepared to take one on the chin. And to you Damon
haters? Go outside, the weather is warm.
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damon
NHB Staff
Posts:710
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| 05/09/2006 3:17 PM |
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Honestly, I am starting to wonder about Mark and how much he likes or
doesn't like us. If you don't believe me, go
read.
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Reddevildelsol
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| 05/09/2006 3:19 PM |
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You have to remember also that a lot of them(as in the haters) are probably between 12-18 years old. They will grow out of it some day. They are just in that 'I have to be like everyone else to be cool' stage. So I am sure its just 1 or 2 people with a bunch of kids following. Besides, what adult would call a radio station to comment like they have been or quack?
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damon
NHB Staff
Posts:710
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| 05/09/2006 3:30 PM |
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Let's
be fair, I don't think defcon was a part of the quack/mortal kombat
invasion.
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Reddevildelsol
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| 05/09/2006 3:34 PM |
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| yeah I never said it was im just using them as an example. |
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Zane McFate
NHB Staff
Posts:283
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| 05/09/2006 3:47 PM |
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That duck was hilarious, I always asked him to call in and he never did.  |
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Manicmobius
Posts:39
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| 05/09/2006 6:16 PM |
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| Don't worry Damon we'll show you how its done. Oh and Paul, regional managers still can make the food and help out the store. I know i use to work for the company that your in and our regional manager helped out when he visited our store. So you're still a taco maker, and if you don't than you're just a bad manager |
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damon
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 7:12 PM |
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| Manic. You couldn't show me how to tie my shoes. Go back to your hole and stay there. If you don't like us, go away. You are not proving anything but how fucking retarded you are by posting your shit smelling words here. So, if you like defcon, that's fine, go listen to defcon, and eat a dick. But coming around here is only going to get you anihilated like the little cunt that you have between your legs. |
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Zane McFate
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 7:17 PM |
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So Manic, the regional manager had to take time out of his busy schedule to show you how to do your job correctly? I can see why you're not making tacos now. |
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damon
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 7:32 PM |
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Please, this guy couldn't push a broom without a manual, assuming he can
even read. It's obvious he can't, since he hasn't addressed any of my tough
questions. So, come on, Manic. Tax your brain a little bit. What's your real
issue with me. I am calling you and all the other lurking defcon fans here to
come out and tell me right now. Or do you not have balls? I'd say it's the
latter.
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Manicmobius
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| 05/09/2006 8:20 PM |
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Gee they say its hard to fight a battle of wits with an unarmed person,
but what about an unarmed station? Damn all you guys are idiots, no
wonder shows come over to defcon. And Zane stop suckling on Damons
balls is ego is big enough. And if you want real ownage check out this
post by mark:
First, I'd like to say that, I've been awefully
cordial about the remarks that NHB has made about my station pretty
much since we started. I've sat back and listened, quietly. Never
saying anything or defending our methods. Even now, I don't really feel
like it'd do much good because we both have different views on how to
run a station. But I'll attempt to clear the air since it appears my
forum account at NHB was deleted and new signup's are being moderated
too.
They way we run DefCon is different. We admit that. Thing
is, we never wanted to be "all original" from the get go. If people
wanna hear our shows other than the scheduled times, they can download
the podcasts. I'm not so egotistical to think that the whole world
wants to hear my voice 24/7. We give them options. Is it a fraud (or
bait & switch) when Stern or O&A would interrupt a local music
station to do their show? Besides, we have an original stream coming
online in the next couple weeks. That should ease your minds.
As
far as us "inheritting" disgruntled listeners from other networks - I
honestly couldn't tell you where they've come from. But, whatever the
reasons, they are more than welcome to boost our ratings. NHB wouldn't
mind it a bit either. Just because we didn't employ your methods of
audience building, doesn't mean we haven't worked to get the audience
we have. If the numbers drop to near NHB levels when a live show comes
on, that just proves we've moved along at a much greater speed at
audience building than NHB. We are a comedy network, plain and simple.
Comedy comes in all shapes and sizes. DefCon has also produced it's
first live comedy show at my home comedy club with a lineup of 8
comedians back in Febuary. I am a fan of comedy. If it makes me laugh,
I like it.
For the record, I have NEVER courted an NHB show.
I've never courted ANY show for that matter. If they are on DefCon,
it's because we were contacted 1st. Some had problems elsewhere, some
didn't. Honestly, it's none of my business why they had their panties
in a bunch. They needed a place to broadcast, i provided them with the
venue. I never tried to steal Sloan. Sloan contacted me, once again.
But he feels a morbid loyalty to NHB, so he called me to tell me he had
decided to return. No big deal. I've never thought about it since that
phone call.
Now for my personal statement:
We have
consistantly been the top comedy station since the day we opened our
doors on October 5th 2004. There are other stations playing stand-up
comedy, why aren't they #1? What are we doing that's so much better?
Oh, that's right - we're listening. We are giving the fans what they
want, not dictating what they get. We are always open for suggestions,
comments, criticisms. We aren't afraid to compete with anyone. Anytime,
ever. We really haven't had to. For all the NHB lurkers who want to
think bad about me, I'm OK with that. No long winded rants, no insults,
no backlash. I'm just doing my thing over here and with the help of my
staff and fans - we're doing a pretty damn good job.
So Damon,
while I know you have to be tough guy to maintain the respect your
listeners have for you, I don't take an ounce of offense. You run your
ship the way you want, it's yours to sink or keep afloat. Makes no
difference to me either way.
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Zane McFate
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 8:42 PM |
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Manic, that's not ownage. That's actually a well thought out and valid opinion. Do you think this is about "owning" another station? Do you honestly think we stay up at night wondering why another station has more listeners? Mark doesn't have a problem with us! I don't know why you do. All you can do is bash our network over and over, then post someone else's words to defend yourself. Why are you all on our forums anyway? Go back to your own network if you hate us so much, you can have all the celebration you want over there.
Don't drag your management into this unless they feel like coming over here themselves. Also, remember, your management won't tell you the truth if it incriminates them. Don't go into an argument already believing 100% of what one side says. I'm not going to call anyone liars outright, but I was sent a few forum posts from your network, and it doesn't sound anything like the story I saw with my own eyes. Remember that the shows you listen to will tell you what they want you to hear, and all in all, you'll believe it. You are their pawns, and until you realize that you have no way to know what's really going on and stop caring, there will always be these wars between listeners who think that they're "in the know."
Anyway, I'm tired of this discussion because I'm not permitted to speak the truth. *gasp* Am I being CONTROLLED? Yes, yes I am. That's what it means to be a professional. It means keeping your mouth shut when your superiors ask you to. It means respecting people who don't want to cause any more trouble than there already is. Being a professional is about respect, and honesty. It's about being accountable for your actions. It's not about running away and making a scene when someone lays down the law. And if you think there's a place where there really is total anarchy and there are no restrictions, I bid you well in that place. I'll stick to a station where we enforce quality standards and require our staff to respect each other. A place where we have each other's back.
I'll give the Defcon staff lurking around here a thought to stew on: when your show decides that they don't want to be with your network any more, do you think they'll keep your staff information secret? Do you think they'll respect you and leave quietly? Or do you think they'll broadcast your private meetings on the air to hundreds of people? Keep that in mind every time the Reckless crew loses their temper or makes an idle threat. They will never be a part of Defcon. They will ride its coattails until they get what they want, then they will move on when it pleases them, and they will stab you in the back, just as they have us. Always remember that, and remember that nothing you ever say is between you and them. And remember that you knew they were liars and backstabbers all along, because you helped them do it. |
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MentalJohnUK
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| 05/09/2006 9:01 PM |
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Having spoken to Mark myslf I will have to agree with the viewpoint that he has NO problem with our station.
I'm going to do a complete turn around here, and though I have been rude about Defcon in the past, I have come to see there is no reason for this ongoing 'conflict'.
I will be the first to say that an attacks I may have made on Defcon were wrong and I am sorry. I have no problem with Defcon's Mark. We talked, and we came to civil understandings about things I was previously questioning.
I continue to condone Reckless's broadcasting of material agreed was not for public consumption. That was just rude, and ungentlemanly. I continue to disagree with anyone who comes to our forums with the aim of causing anger/upset among our listeners.
I will continue to side with NHB's management, and will continue to follow the orders of Damon and Paul. They own the network, and therefore their rules stand. It's not like a country where you are born into it, and have to follow it's rules until you can leave; it is a network I volunteer to listen to. If I didn't like it, I would leave and choose not to listen. With the exception of Amateur Hour, I do not listen to Defcon as this is my right.
If I don't want to listen, I don't have to. In this light, Damon and Paul can do ANYTHING THEY WANT on their network. THEY CAN MAKE ANY RULES, and I will obey them. If I found myself disagreeing, all I have to do is turn off my stream, and stop accessing NHB content.
I would urge EVERYONE to do the same. If you dislike NHB the network, or a particular show, JUST DON'T LISTEN. Nobody gives a rats ass whether you dislike NHB, Defcon, or any show on any network. Just DONT LISTEN! DONT CAUSE ARGUMENTS! JUST LEAVE!
Long Live NHB
MJUK
PS - Quite stoked that my thread is so long, even though the topic miraculously changed during the posts... hehe
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Zane McFate
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 9:14 PM |
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| I need to be a bit faster on the Split Topic button. |
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damon
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 9:27 PM |
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Manic,
just shut up. If mark wants to post, he is free to do so, because to my
knowledge, nobody banned or blocked him. As for me having an ego, you believe
everything you hear, don't you? Do you know me off air, Manic? I hate
asskissers, I hate arrogant people and I hate stupidity. I do not have an ego, I
am actually the person who never gives himself enough credit and you can ask any
members of my family and any of my close friends. I can pick apart everything I
do and find the flaws. What you hear on the air is a facade. Do you know what
that is? Does anybody know what that is anymore? No, you obviously don't, since
you, reckless john and an entire station of people who don't even know me have
bought into the game. I should go into acting, because you all believe the shit
I spew as if this is who I was. You don't know me, don't judge me and don't tell
me shit, because you are not on staff, you don't know what goes on behind the
scenes, you just spew the defcon propaganda like a good little sheep. Now, do me
a favor and go remove your head from your
rectum.
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damon
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 9:30 PM |
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I
would say amen, but I don't want to look like an ass
kisser.
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damon
NHB Staff
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| 05/09/2006 9:30 PM |
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Wow.
Intelligence reigns supreme in the forum. Oh wait, I am responding to ass
kissing again, aren't I?
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Barefoot Lurker
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| 05/09/2006 9:37 PM |
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If you have something nice to say, you are an ass kisser.
If you have nothing good to say, you are a rebel warrior. Or something like that... |
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